INTERVIEW WITH DR ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI (13/6/97), Part 1,

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/coldwar/interviews/episode-17/brzezinski1.html

INTERVIEW WITH DR ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI  (13/6/97), Part 2,
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/coldwar/interviews/episode-17/brzezinski2.html